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Kashif Ali replied to Kashif Ali's discussion '10,000+ subcatchments to be assigned with outlets'
Hello Robert, Here is the .inp file for your review, if you can see how large data can be handled by excel add-on http://www.mediafire.com/?a5u64plrksd3tec
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Kashif Ali replied to Kashif Ali's discussion '10,000+ subcatchments to be assigned with outlets'
Thanks Rui for your time and efforts to go through this project, By using GIS functions and adding fields in attribute files, the sub catchments are now linked with their appropriate outlets.  Also, rather than, loading all hydrologic and…
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Kashif Ali replied to Kashif Ali's discussion '10,000+ subcatchments to be assigned with outlets'
Thanks Robert, It really what I needed - without reading the manual, I was trying each option in the swmm to see if there is way to export the data in excel format. However, data being too large, excel simply says sorry with this message (This…
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Rui Daniel Pina replied to Kashif Ali's discussion '10,000+ subcatchments to be assigned with outlets'
Please try inp.PINS and select inpTools --> Subcatchments connection (https://sites.google.com/site/inppins/) You can also edit inp text file, or even use GIS functions.
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inp.PINS worked just fine! Kashif, Please see the message I send you with my results data. The data you send me needed to be "SWMM formated". I did some of this: 1 - Assign invert elevation to nodes from links shp - GIS join; 2 - Define…
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Robert Dickinson replied to Kashif Ali's discussion '10,000+ subcatchments to be assigned with outlets'
You can save the SWMM 5 input file to Excel using this tool and then use Excel to populate the OUTLET column http://www.swmm2000.com/xn/detail/2039064:Note:1021
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10,000+ subcatchments to be assigned with outlets

Hi experts,I am to assign outlet to some 10,000 sub catchments, manually doing it doesn't seem professional.Luckily, name of subcatchment is same name of junction (outlet)i.e.Subcatcment              Junction177119                      177119177123                      177123177126                      177126263803                      263803263806                      263806These are not in particular sequence but name of subcatchment is always same as of junction.Any clueThanks in advanceSee More
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SWMM 3,4,5 uses a spatial step equal to the length of the link. Or, in terms of the 1D St. Venant Equation for the calculation of flow used in SWMM 5:



In which is the length of the conduit.

The program will calculate the cross sectional area, hydraulic radius top width and depth at the upstream, midpoint and downstream sections of the link. The link solution is pivoted on the midpoint cross sectional area in the dominant dynamic wave terms and
and the non-linear term in the dynamic wave equation uses the upstream and downstream link cross sectional areas. In the finite difference equation in SWMM 5 the pipe shown below would have one length but use the cross sectional information from the upstream, midpoint and downstream points of the link.

The bend in the pipe would be modeled using the "other" category of losses



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Option "Define Supercritical Flow By" does inside the SWMM 5 engine. The options are called Slope, Froude and Bothin the GUI and in the engine of SWMM 5. A few other variable definitions you need to know to understand this explanation are: (1) Y1 for the upstream link depth, (2) Y2 for the downstream link depth, (3) Q for the flow in the link, (4)Qfull for the full Manning's equation flow or normal flow for the link based on the bed slope, (5) Froude1 and Froude2 for the Froude Number respectively of the upstream and downstream ends of the link, (6) n for Manning's roughness, (7) Yfull for the maximum depth of the link and (8) Qnormal for the Normal Flow equation flow based on the upstream area of the link (A1) and the upstream hydraulic radius (R1).


In the SWMM 5 engine these options are used after the dynamic wave equation flow is estimated using the St. Venant equation. The option that you choose is only active for those links that have a flow greater than 0, links with negative flow use the dynamic wave equation flow exclusively. It the flow is positive and the link is an open channel and full then the minimum of the dynamic wave flow or Qfull is used as the new flow in the link. If the flow is positive and the depth at the upstream end of the link or Y1 is less than Yfull then the engine will compare Qnormal to Q using the routines in Check Normal Flow.


If the link gets to the Check Normal Flow routines then it uses the following logic:
  • If the Slope or Both option is used or either the upstream node or the downstream node of the link is an outfall AND Y1 is less than Y2 then the minimum of Q from the dynamic wave equation or Q from the Normal Flow equation is used as the current iteration flow in link, or
  • If the Froude or Both option AND either the upstream Froude Number or the downstream Froude number is greater than 1 then the minimum of Q from the dynamic wave equation or Q from the Normal Flow equation is used as the current iteration flow in link. This condition is never used if either of the connecting nodes of the link are outfalls.

How does this work in the actual flow that SWMM 5 estimates for a link? Consider this example in which the link flow in blue is plotted with the Qnormal flow in red and the Q dynamic wave equation flow in purple:

Qnormal is



Qnormal is only calculated when the link is not full so in the plot a Qnormal of 0 means that the pipe was full. At other times the flow in the link was equal to Qnormal as the minimum of the dynamic equation flow or the Qnormal flow is used at each iteration in the solution process. The flow is normally bounded by the Qnormal flow in SWMM 5.0.013. Your choice of the options Slope, Froude andBoth really only impact the conditions under which this comparison is true. If you use Froude or Both then Supercritical flow at either end of the link will trigger this comparison will be the dynamic wave equation flow and the Froude number at each end of the link.


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